tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4930457134828005115.post7396898279095423166..comments2024-03-26T20:07:47.116-04:00Comments on Fairytales and Fitness: Running Calculations and Strategies : Opinions NeededFairytales and Fitnesshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11771224209536216240noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4930457134828005115.post-123917926282205432015-10-16T12:27:55.452-04:002015-10-16T12:27:55.452-04:00so i signed up for galloway training plans coachin...so i signed up for galloway training plans coaching and have LOVED it so far. it has been very beneficial. I was able to do my first true magic mile (and i was pushing the pace. it should be hard to the point you couldnt run more than 50 more yards) and from there, we set my new interval 60 sec/30 sec. To get used to the short switching, i have been working on acceleration drills that help with starting and stopping and cadence drills to get up to 180 per minute. I am running more on feel and have seen great things in a short few weeks (I did a tempo mile on feel and ran a 9:47 mile which is my fastest mile ever in training paces and was not tired at all). <br /><br />i have found shorter interval, gives me more energy throughout the whole race and i could push harder (I did it in my marathon over the weekend and in 91 degree weather, and PRed by 28 minutes).you definitely should not be tired from your interval. I am focused on getting in all my walk breaks as Jeff Galloway says, the most important walk breaks are the ones in the beginning. <br /><br />i think splitting a long run only works if there is no other way to fit it in for that weekend. i could not see myself doing it every week though. Julianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11352740561555628315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4930457134828005115.post-56028320601427190722015-10-16T07:02:55.737-04:002015-10-16T07:02:55.737-04:00All these questions are over my non-marathoning he...All these questions are over my non-marathoning head! The only time I ran twice in one day is when I was training for Ragnar, since I usually only run on alternate days. Cocohttp://got2run4me.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4930457134828005115.post-76901944040536504362015-10-15T21:53:50.038-04:002015-10-15T21:53:50.038-04:00Splitting a long run doesn't count as a long r...Splitting a long run doesn't count as a long run as far as I'm concerned as a coach. I totally agree. However, if it's the ONLY way you can get the miles in, then you need to do what you need to do, but it isn't ideal.Sue @ This Mama Runs for Cupcakeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17572556245744093363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4930457134828005115.post-31889027075117379882015-10-15T19:47:51.457-04:002015-10-15T19:47:51.457-04:00I am no help with the Galloway plan as I just run ...I am no help with the Galloway plan as I just run the whole time, but I am all about listening to your body and what it tells you to do. Abbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16974948295074149005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4930457134828005115.post-2616166347527961652015-10-15T18:12:15.478-04:002015-10-15T18:12:15.478-04:00Thank you so much for this info. I'm gonna go ...Thank you so much for this info. I'm gonna go play with my Garmin and see what I can get it to do!Fairytales and Fitnesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11771224209536216240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4930457134828005115.post-55448006487932885152015-10-15T18:01:04.350-04:002015-10-15T18:01:04.350-04:00Thank you for that info. I can definitely see wher...Thank you for that info. I can definitely see where 2 shorter runs are more beneficial than no run at all. I would still feel like I needed to get that long run in later that week. Fairytales and Fitnesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11771224209536216240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4930457134828005115.post-62892913668523785662015-10-15T17:59:21.149-04:002015-10-15T17:59:21.149-04:00Yes, there are so many different ways to try. This...Yes, there are so many different ways to try. This training cycle i'm actually doing my own plan. Don't know if it's right or wrong but it's working for me! Fairytales and Fitnesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11771224209536216240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4930457134828005115.post-61630308552961345572015-10-15T17:58:09.738-04:002015-10-15T17:58:09.738-04:00Ha, I feel I put the most effort into EVERY mile.....Ha, I feel I put the most effort into EVERY mile...lolFairytales and Fitnesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11771224209536216240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4930457134828005115.post-19588749099938254632015-10-15T17:56:57.526-04:002015-10-15T17:56:57.526-04:00I have never tried it but I don't see where it...I have never tried it but I don't see where it would be beneficial either.Fairytales and Fitnesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11771224209536216240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4930457134828005115.post-34436295119702529242015-10-15T17:55:47.031-04:002015-10-15T17:55:47.031-04:00I am normally a fast walker and continue to do so ...I am normally a fast walker and continue to do so on my walk breaks. This will be one habit that will be hard to break! Fairytales and Fitnesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11771224209536216240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4930457134828005115.post-59124853614107363052015-10-15T17:40:00.272-04:002015-10-15T17:40:00.272-04:00I think it's just a way to A) save time and B)...I think it's just a way to A) save time and B) build stamina if 16 together is too much. Either way... that's impressive! Good luck!!! :)Laura @ Sprint 2 the Tablehttp://www.sprint2thetable.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4930457134828005115.post-85576887393522542622015-10-15T14:39:11.216-04:002015-10-15T14:39:11.216-04:00Interesting post. I blogged about why I split a f...Interesting post. I blogged about why I split a few long runs during my Boston training plan, if you are interested you can read it here http://www.lifebetweenthemiles.com/2014/03/12/splitting-your-long-run/ but I think with every method/plan/etc there are pros and cons and you just need to find what really works for YOU and go with it. Different strokes and all that...you know? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4930457134828005115.post-8685810749479422172015-10-15T11:22:01.230-04:002015-10-15T11:22:01.230-04:00Oh my goodness! I have so many thoughts to share b...Oh my goodness! I have so many thoughts to share based on all these questions! But I'll summarize my answer to a few things with one basic statement: When you are recovering from injury and/or when you are doing the run/walk method, BE CONSERVATIVE. <br /><br />I've learned from experience that getting too ambitious early on can lead to problems further on down the line. I liken it to when you are starting a race - the temptation is to go all out at the beginning, because you feel so good! But then, that often results in a tough second half of the race. I think it's always better to be more conservative than less conservative. I've heard it said that it's better to show up at a starting line healthy and undertrained than well-trained but injured or approaching injury.<br /><br />If you do want to push things beyond what is prescribed, do it very, very gradually. I say this because I have rushed back from injury only to reinjure myself and end up spending even MORE time sidelined in the end! I know how tough it is mentally to take things slowly, but in my opinion it's not worth the risk! Take care of the one body that you have, you know?emmers712https://www.blogger.com/profile/15865493476823978890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4930457134828005115.post-30077278705174677982015-10-15T01:49:57.433-04:002015-10-15T01:49:57.433-04:00Splitting a long run actually disqualifies it as a...Splitting a long run actually disqualifies it as a long run. The purpose of the long run is to train your body and feet to adjust to the hours and time running on them.<br />I think a lot who do that are first timers or people who get to comfortable with the run less training plans. I wouldn't listen to them if it were me:)<br />As for the run walk , I'm not much of an advocate of them. Just the opposite I think sometimes they bring more injuries to runners than just running them fully. They also mess with a runners mind too much telling them they can or cant do something. <br />I am kind of a believer in this. If you want to run more and don't feel like walking, then don't. Your in training you can train your body and mind to do whatever you want it to.<br />If your enjoying running more then do it. If you prefer walking more do that.<br />Running more now is just going to make it a lot easier on your body come race day. You'll be much better conditioned.<br />I attended a runners conference at a marathon I ran years ago and the speaker talked about the popularity of the run/walk programs. He said they were created for first timers who it helped reduce the fear of running the entire time and still being able to finish one in their life. I think they are great for those who want to use them time after time. But after your first or second marathon you might just be hooked. Why not run more, go for PR's and train the brain that you can love running as much as you want to do.<br />I wouldn't worry about injury, that tends to only happen when distance building and speed are combined at the same time. Your training smart and gradual, you have time before your race. I think you can make it be however you want, you can very likely train to run the entire race if you want:) Or you can walk half of it. Thats the beauty of choice:) At this point I would say decide what you want to do and then do it. your only limitations are what you set for yourself. There is no rule that says you can't create your own training plan that specifically puts you into what you want. Well that and never listen to anyone who tells you to split your long run lolRunaway Bridal Plannerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18436851320623647572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4930457134828005115.post-83661695849321576132015-10-15T01:46:01.826-04:002015-10-15T01:46:01.826-04:00Splitting a long run actually disqualifies it as a...Splitting a long run actually disqualifies it as a long run. The purpose of the long run is to train your body and feet to adjust to the hours and time running on them.<br />I think a lot who do that are first timers or people who get to comfortable with the run less training plans. I wouldn't listen to them if it were me:)<br />As for the run walk , I'm not much of an advocate of them. Just the opposite I think sometimes they bring more injuries to runners than just running them fully. They also mess with a runners mind too much telling them they can or cant do something. <br />I am kind of a believer in this. If you want to run more and don't feel like walking, then don't. Your in training you can train your body and mind to do whatever you want it to.<br />If your enjoying running more then do it. If you prefer walking more do that.<br />Running more now is just going to make it a lot easier on your body come race day. You'll be much better conditioned.<br />I attended a runners conference at a marathon I ran years ago and the speaker talked about the popularity of the run/walk programs. He said they were created for first timers who it helped reduce the fear of running the entire time and still being able to finish one in their life. I think they are great for those who want to use them time after time. But after your first or second marathon you might just be hooked. Why not run more, go for PR's and train the brain that you can love running as much as you want to do.<br />I wouldn't worry about injury, that tends to only happen when distance building and speed are combined at the same time. Your training smart and gradual, you have time before your race. I think you can make it be however you want, you can very likely train to run the entire race if you want:) Or you can walk half of it. Thats the beauty of choice:) At this point I would say decide what you want to do and then do it. your only limitations are what you set for yourself. There is no rule that says you can't create your own training plan that specifically puts you into what you want. Well that and never listen to anyone who tells you to split your long run lolRunaway Bridal Plannerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18436851320623647572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4930457134828005115.post-1244696476967871022015-10-14T22:47:39.305-04:002015-10-14T22:47:39.305-04:00I have never set my Garmin I always carry a Gym bo...I have never set my Garmin I always carry a Gym boss, it just clips on my running belt. When it is cooler out I do better walking at a good clip ( about 3.5 miles an hour) in summer I walked like I was a zombie lol Karenhttp://moreclutterfromkaren.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4930457134828005115.post-55191145783085821442015-10-14T22:41:24.391-04:002015-10-14T22:41:24.391-04:00I actually asked Jeff Galloway about this personal...I actually asked Jeff Galloway about this personally! As a new mom, I had to divide my 4 mile runs even! I was told that as long as you don't it for all of your long runs, you can divide a few. It works for my lifestyle. But I try not to! Kimberlyhttp://www.fitdisneymom.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4930457134828005115.post-53851354376105194402015-10-14T21:39:31.456-04:002015-10-14T21:39:31.456-04:00I have no answers for you! Just stopping in say hi...I have no answers for you! Just stopping in say hi. I hope you find out and then post the answers because now I want to know too!Deborah @ Confessions of a Mother Runnerhttp://confessionsofamotherrunner.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4930457134828005115.post-79046967042503793512015-10-14T20:16:54.672-04:002015-10-14T20:16:54.672-04:00I don't know any of these answers, but I'm...I don't know any of these answers, but I'm interested in learning about all these things. My local running group does Galloway training, and they use the magic mile to calculate your pace and walk/run ratio. I'm not sure how they do that calculation, but I know the faster runners run a longer run interval. Do you have a local running group you can check with? I might be helpful to consult with them on some of these questions. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15789773999034928321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4930457134828005115.post-16367924632195216222015-10-14T17:35:05.822-04:002015-10-14T17:35:05.822-04:00Yeah, blogs are great for getting feedback! To spl...Yeah, blogs are great for getting feedback! To split a long run up would make it much easier than doing it all at once so I feel more confident about my ability to finish a marathon after completing a long run that I've done all at once. Tina @GottaRunNowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16321814382532015313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4930457134828005115.post-59446967407807944662015-10-14T16:57:47.397-04:002015-10-14T16:57:47.397-04:00I have never split a long run nor tried a run/walk...I have never split a long run nor tried a run/walk method. However, as I currently have an injured foot but am still scheduled to run the Disney marathon in January, I may choose a run/walk ratio to help me successfully finish this race. Of course, there is some healing that has to happen first! Good luck with your training! Hope to see you there! HoHo Runshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01986964581984440945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4930457134828005115.post-19474828507097291162015-10-14T14:41:19.909-04:002015-10-14T14:41:19.909-04:00I'm interested in all the answers here... I ha...I'm interested in all the answers here... I have been changing my interval time with weight shedding & feeling a little lighter... I ran the full 2 miles the other day without stopping & was like, is this good or bad? :) haha... I dont know what to do myself for the 'long haul' - so when you find out what works for you - be sure to share!Rebecca Johttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03965781380511208862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4930457134828005115.post-12112129016142549142015-10-14T11:54:00.444-04:002015-10-14T11:54:00.444-04:00Yay for getting started with those long runs! :) I...Yay for getting started with those long runs! :) I'm with you -- I've never split mileage. As much as the idea tempts me, I feel like I need that extra time on my feet so that I can truly experience the struggle and agony that I know awaits me on race day, lol. :)Jennifer L. Nelsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11842730736717092549noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4930457134828005115.post-64953550719435248682015-10-14T11:18:24.472-04:002015-10-14T11:18:24.472-04:00I never understood splitting the long run, either ...I never understood splitting the long run, either - to me, it becomes two separate runs at that point. <br /><br />I recently read that you do most of your "recovery" in the first 30 seconds of the walk interval, so I tried to shorten mine to 2:00/:30, and I did OK for a shorter (3 mile) run. Not sure that I would last for 13 miles doing that, however. I do like knowing, especially when I'm in mile, say, 9, that I "only" have to run for two minutes before I get a walk break...and sometimes, I need that dang walk break for my mental state as well as for my physical state.<br /><br />On my Garmin, you can set the intervals in 15 second increments (it's a 220, which I LOVE).<br /><br />I never understood the magic mile either.Shelleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09268130692900152965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4930457134828005115.post-74225487884043535542015-10-14T10:31:58.921-04:002015-10-14T10:31:58.921-04:00I've never split my runs up in one day. I am ...I've never split my runs up in one day. I am like you, as it doesn't seem to make sense in regards to building up endurance. Michelle @ www.movinitwithmichelle.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04819142037609485717noreply@blogger.com